Analog Blog

10 minutes of candid chats about the ruby world.

Sydney had its inaugural analog blog on wed night. Here’s a very condensed summary of what transpired.

• Lachie bought up Zeds meltdown…
  • Who is Zed – they guy who wrote mongrel – we all use it.
  • Zed slagged of many peeps in community. Some of which was very valid, but he also got a bit dramatic about petty things like playing werewolf at rails camp.
  • Cliff posted a message pointing us to articles on psychopathology and how groups get ‘infiltrated’ by people who change the nature of the company.
  • MartinS – felt issues raised were valid, but his ad homonym manner of attack was out of line, and many of his personal stories were unconvincing
  • Phils observation was because was unpleasant in his delivery he was effective; after all we’re talking about it. If he was nice, he may have had no impact.
  • CarlW – Only interesting thing Zed raised is the 400 restarts (of basecamp) a day – i.e. a legitimate technical vs social issues
    • Following on from that it raises question why aren’t I being more critical about my choice of frameworks
    • Discussion degraded to debate about values of base camp
  • CarlW – If we’re going to have flame wars (on roro googlegroup) – we need to kill it straight away, this stuff is bad for our community – “my bro not comming back”
  • Lachlan – Perhaps we should all take responsibility to manage this by shutting the threads like this down
  • Matt if you don’t like rails/community – piss off – we make money from it, we have the choice, the source is there (i.e. it may/may not be crap under the hood, but it works and we use it so ultimately that doesn’t matter)
  • Tim disagrees – enjoys the technical value of the frame work
  • Discussion of comparison between coldfusion vs rails and the management of their issues
  • Discussion of biggest industry this year is ‘rails clean up’
    • regardless rails has re-invigerated web industry, prompting secondary frameworks
• Pat Allen has released shite loads – check out auspostie.com/mycity.
  • All in all pats been doing heaps
  • Lachie alerts us to existence of roro repo
• Max not arround ATM (matta) – matts going to go digging for max’s gold (i.e. his now removed blogs etc)
• CarlW – latest rails breaks markaby
• Lachlan – Can you freeze merb edge <—slapped down! thats not a news item
• Err the blog are blogging again – having release grit – a git interface for ruby
  • gitorious got released, inferred as “a distributed open source development collaboration”
    • Discussion deteriorated to a comparison of distributed SC systems
• MartinS provided a copy of Rails Way for perusal during meeting